Characters who have used this rule | |
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Name | Gestalt Combination |
Marybelle | 6LA Half-fey Half-Fiend |
Hugrim | 13//9+4LA Phrenic Mineral Warrior Half Giant |
Fi | 8LA vampire |
Crysta | 2LA winged halfing |
Candar | Full class gestalt |
Aviana | 4RHD+2LA |
Shiva | Full racial gestalt |
Rocco | 3RHD+3LA Wereboar |
Marzanna | Full racial gestalt |
Lyralei | 2LA Drow |
Nero | 1LA Water Genasi |
Kali | 1LA Feral |
Gabrielle | 1LA Catfolk |
Using this variant each player may, at their option, choose to gestalt either class levels, or any LA they happen to have (though I like to limit the LA to in game granted material, or using savage progressions, rather than allowing a player to begin play with exorbient LA that they will pay off on the side) by paying a cumulative 500xp per gestalt level (see table below). Their ECL is then calculated by summing their xp on both sides and rounding it down to the nearest level threshold of a normal character. This has also been provided in an easy to read table format below.
The progression is staggered, so a player does not go from 1//1 to 2//2, but rather to 2//1, then 2//2. A character cannot choose to partial gestalt with class levels. A player may choose to begin gestalting at level 13 (as one of my players did), but he must continue to progress his gestalt side until it has caught up before he may begin his staggered gestalt progression. If gestalting with RHD/LA this rule does not apply, though should the character begin gestalting class levels at any point, they must adhere to this requirement.
As you can see, the numbers start to get a little high toward the end, with ECL 20 being hit at 17//16. While this does not quite result in dual 9s for any dual spellcasting progression, like typical level 20 dual progression builds, this is offset by a much broader set of benefits from having the ability to access any prestige class the character desires, and continuing to gain the benefits of one of his base classes, rather than forcing themselves into a dual progression prestige class, likely with significantly less interesting class features.
This system does allow for a much higher level of LA than the normal one does. It has a natural “buy off” effect since gestalted LA, as you gain levels, has less of an impact on your total XP, until it finally stops affecting your ECL. For example, a player with +6 LA (10,500xp invested into LA) has +1 ECL until level 11, where the LA ceases to increase the character's XP to the next level threshold. This allows players who gain templates such as lycanthropy or vampirism to explore these options without completely ruining their character's ability to advance due to LA. By level 19, a vampire's +8LA would be completely offset, resulting in no increase in ECL, which, at that level, it would not be deserving of any, while still maintaining a hefty penalty at lower levels, where it is powerful. I also strongly urge DMs to use savage progressions for any templates that players may acquire over the course of the game, just to add granularity to it. As a litmus test, I've looked at this against a few creatures, their LAs and their CR. For example, a succubus, 6HD and 6LA, under this rule would be ECL 7, which just happens to be their CR. Hound Archons and Janni, similar popular (though likely hardly ever played) monstrous player races, while having 6HD and +5 LA, still result in ECL 7 (despite their CR4) and attain “LA”+0 once they hit level 8 (assuming they take no gestalt levels).
This is definitely a higher powered when used to gain low amounts of LA, as it is strictly better than LA buy-off, but generally the higher RHD/LA a template/monster has, the less likely it is to see play due to the levels not being worth it. Full class gestalting has proven to work very well if the initial character concept involved some kind of dual progression already, or if the player is interested in a higher level of versatility versus lower amounts of HD. It has also shown to greatly favour the lower levels in this regard, allowing dual progression builds to function at much higher effectiveness earlier on, but slowing down in build tempo as the character gains levels and increases their ECL more and move above their HD.
Here are a few clarifying points about the system:
Through playtesting, I have also added the following rules to cover additional use cases:
Gestalt XP Costs | ||
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Level | Cost | Cumulative Cost |
0 | 0 | 0 |
1 | 500 | 500 |
2 | 1,000 | 1,500 |
3 | 1,500 | 3,000 |
4 | 2,000 | 5,000 |
5 | 2,500 | 7,500 |
6 | 3,000 | 10,500 |
7 | 3,500 | 14,000 |
8 | 4,000 | 18,000 |
9 | 4,500 | 22,500 |
10 | 5,000 | 27,500 |
11 | 5,500 | 33,000 |
12 | 6,000 | 39,000 |
13 | 6,500 | 45,500 |
14 | 7,000 | 52,500 |
15 | 7,500 | 60,000 |
16 | 8,000 | 68,000 |
17 | 8,500 | 76,500 |
18 | 9,000 | 85,500 |
19 | 9,500 | 95,000 |
20 | 10,000 | 105,000 |
Gestalt ECL Changes | ||||||||||||||||||||
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Level | Gestalt Level | |||||||||||||||||||
1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | |
1 | +0 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – |
2 | +0 | +0 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – |
3 | +0 | +0 | +1 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – |
4 | +0 | +0 | +0 | +1 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – |
5 | +0 | +0 | +0 | +1 | +1 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – |
6 | +0 | +0 | +0 | +0 | +1 | +1 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – |
7 | +0 | +0 | +0 | +0 | +1 | +1 | +1 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – |
8 | +0 | +0 | +0 | +0 | +0 | +1 | +1 | +2 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – |
9 | +0 | +0 | +0 | +0 | +0 | +1 | +1 | +1 | +2 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – |
10 | +0 | +0 | +0 | +0 | +0 | +1 | +1 | +1 | +2 | +2 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – |
11 | +0 | +0 | +0 | +0 | +0 | +0 | +1 | +1 | +1 | +2 | +2 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – |
12 | +0 | +0 | +0 | +0 | +0 | +0 | +1 | +1 | +1 | +2 | +2 | +3 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – |
13 | +0 | +0 | +0 | +0 | +0 | +0 | +1 | +1 | +1 | +2 | +2 | +2 | +3 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – |
14 | +0 | +0 | +0 | +0 | +0 | +0 | +1 | +1 | +1 | +1 | +2 | +2 | +3 | +3 | – | – | – | – | – | – |
15 | +0 | +0 | +0 | +0 | +0 | +0 | +0 | +1 | +1 | +1 | +2 | +2 | +2 | +3 | +3 | – | – | – | – | – |
16 | +0 | +0 | +0 | +0 | +0 | +0 | +0 | +1 | +1 | +1 | +2 | +2 | +2 | +3 | +3 | +3 | – | – | – | – |
17 | +0 | +0 | +0 | +0 | +0 | +0 | +0 | +1 | +1 | +1 | +1 | +2 | +2 | +2 | +3 | +3 | +4 | – | – | – |
18 | +0 | +0 | +0 | +0 | +0 | +0 | +0 | +1 | +1 | +1 | +1 | +2 | +2 | +2 | +3 | +3 | +3 | +4 | – | – |
19 | +0 | +0 | +0 | +0 | +0 | +0 | +0 | +0 | +1 | +1 | +1 | +2 | +2 | +2 | +3 | +3 | +3 | +4 | +4 | – |
20 | +0 | +0 | +0 | +0 | +0 | +0 | +0 | +0 | +1 | +1 | +1 | +1 | +2 | +2 | +2 | +3 | +3 | +3 | +4 | +4 |